Jesus went to the Father, to prepare a place for us, and left us the gift of the Holy Spirit. Jesus already stated He wouldn’t do this, until the Kingdom had been established. (there are more). And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.”. However the drinking in the Kingdom, which Jesus is referring to, is either in Heaven – or in His Kingdom reign on Earth. Page 405 Actually new Page 512 is … He already lives in us. During Passover, each Jew is obligated to drink four cups of wine at specific times during each Seder (i.e. The groom would return to his father’s house, but would leave his bride a gift, before his departure. “Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? Jesus does not want to be partially taken, but digested in full (SPIRITUALLY) and permanently. $ 23. However, neither of those wine mixtures was the "fruit of the vine" (genematos tes ampelou) Jesus was referring to in Matthew 26:29. “Let one of us sit at your right, and the other at your left in your glory.”, “Can you drink the cup I drink, or be baptised with the baptism I am baptised with?”, “You will drink the cup I drink and be baptised with the baptism I am baptised with, but to sit at my right or left is not for me to grant. Did Jesus drink wine after the third cup? This was coinciding with Jewish families, eating the pass-over meal (at that very moment), and the resurrection of the unleavened bread (Jesus) – now taking place. I will now show, what Jesus really meant by. To quote Dr. Hahn, "Jesus had left unfinished the Passover liturgy in the upper room by not drinking the fourth cup. He would then wait for the father’s determination, and go ahead, to go and claim his bride. Jesus did not say that that cup was only reserved for Him, because it wasn’t a literal cup. said that one should honor the gods to the extent of three cups of wine (Stein, p. 17). The entire bridal party would go through the streets of the city to the groom’s house, and the groomsmen would once again set up the. Click play to listen or you can downlaod the 4th cup full presentation from the Download page. (6) "It is finished" is from the Greek word " tetelestai ," which means to complete or to fulfill. The Bride also promises to pay her dowry. It doesn’t mean He didn’t drink wine – just that it doesn’t mention it. I was and am still a born again Christian. The bride also performs a ritual immersion, symbolic of the spiritual cleansing, of the Holy Spirit. (4) The cup that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 26:29 could not have happened upon Calvary because all the saints ("with you") were not drinking too. Then, at the very end, Jesus was offered "sour wine" (John 19:30; Matt.27:48; Mark 15:36; Luke 23:36). It is amazing that the only things I really remember is that I used to run this blog and do remember much about it and want to continue it. On the Cross Jesus said, "It is finished" (John 19:30), indicating that the work of atonement was completed. “Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him.”. Was it just a remembrance, or to point to a future and greater fulfilment? To clarify these things more, please checkout this shortcut link, which is an excellent audio from Arnold Frauchtenbam. Sometimes the father could not do this himself, but would use a marriage broker, or matchmaker. It just says He received it, but remember Jesus’s hands were nailed so it may have touched His lips but it does not mean Jesus drank it. The New Testament word "propitiation" (hilasterion) continues the Old Testament concept of blood sacrifice (Rom 3:25). Odkrywanie tajemnicy Ostatniej Wieczerzy i krzyża [trans. Jesus does not need to be kept being sacrificed, through a separate extra Catholic act, of transubstantiation. 27 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave {it} to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is My blood of the covenant, This is the whole crux of this article, and is an indication when the final cup will be drunk: “I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on, until that day when I drink it new with you – in my Father’s kingdom.”, There we have it in a nutshell! Jesus declared that He will drink no more wine, until He does so in His Father’s Kingdom. Melchizedek and Catholic Apostolic Succession? How beautifully illustrated, does our saviour do this, for His Bride. According to Shoshana Michael Zucker, 'Elijah's cup should be considered the fifth cup, not because Elijah will resolve the doubt, but rather because his arrival as "harbinger of the redemption" will herald the final redemption; at that time, the prophecy, "I will bring you into the land which I swore to give to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and I will give it to you for a possession" may be fulfilled.'. Pp. As we have seen, he refused some on one occasion, right before being nailed to the cross (Mark 15:23). By the way, when we look at Jacob, who is serving 14 years for his 2 wives – we see each 7 years referred to as, In the Book of Revelation, it talks about the 7 years (during the Tribulation) as being the, In historical Jewish weddings, the marriage supper lasts 7 days. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. 407 Jacob Prasch, reveals Truth about Palestine, Israel and what is really Going on, 404 Answers in Genesis. So you may need to know and use this new number 512. So glorify God in your body.”. So, Dr. Scott Hahn is allowing his RCC dogma to infer with the proper interpretation of Scripture. It was the custom, for the groom to return to his father’s house, and usually add rooms to his father’s house – for his new family. They said they were able to drink the cup of suffering that Jesus was drinking from. The Old/New Testament Church From God's perspective nothing else present or future needed to be done. Attach an asterisk (*) to the end of a word as a wildcard. Copyright 2011-2020, Third Millennium Ministries, Inc. All rights reserved. God has a special relationship with Israel. The whole event, was followed by the marriage supper. Yet, how the cup became a Passover symbol remains a mystery. And Jesus said to them. Besides, how could Jesus' words "It is finished," found only in John, complete a Passover meal not even mentioned in John? Cup 2 – The “no prophecy was given by private interpretation”. “For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. Friday, 19 November 2010 When Did Jesus Drink The Fourth and Final Passover Cup? Also at this time, there would have been singing of the Psalms and a fourth cup of wine poured and drank. On the cups: According to the Mishnah (10:1), a person must drink four cups of wine at the Seder. They seek to impress by quoting Scripture, hoping of course, that the reader would not take a moment of reflection to notice that the verse says nothing about infallible interpretation or that it is not referring to the college of Roman Catholic bishops. Luke 7 indicates that Jesus drank alcohol at times. Some state that in the New Testament, we can see the development of the four cups at the Passover meal: (1) the first cup - the cup of blessing (Luke 22:17); (2) the second cup - the breaking of the bread (Luke 22:19); (3) the third cup - the cup of redemption (Luke 22:20); and (4) to the fourth cup with singing (Matt 26:23-30). You said ‘WE’ are preparing our wedding garment Eph 5:27* Just to place an asterisk to note, but say no more as it isn’t what this thread is about, and you have already mentioned to get further info. Is this true? Or maybe it was the third cup, that represented what Jesus had completed, but. There are different types of cups mentioned in the Bible. Since we are dealing with typology here: (a) is Jesus, like the Roman soldier, a sinner? They were FILLED with Him at that point, onward. This is what was said: This was often the first step in a Jewish betrothal. He wasn’t necessarily referring to one of the 4 physical cups. Please now read these messages. In essence, his view at best implies Jesus is a sinner and, in addition, he denies the atonement accomplished by Christ for his people at Calvary. This cannot be ever lost by those who trust Him, as He Himself gives us all the power to trust in Him. But a "cup" (poterion) is not the same as a "sponge" (spongon), or a "reed" (kalamo), or a "hyssop stock" (hyssopo). What is the name of the 2nd cup. More on that shortly. Hopefully the following ‘cup order’ will help you to understand a little more and will enable you to see that Jesus didn’t just drink randomly from any cup and make His statement – there was an order and deeply spiritual meaning to all that He did and said: Cup 1 – The Kiddush – prayer of sanctification. Unveiling the Mystery of the Last Supper and the Cross (New York: Image 2018). You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. Catholics and Justification? This happened at the moment, we first receive Him as our Saviour. And on the cross, Jesus drank the fourth cup. You will undoubtedly realize why Paul calls the church, and not the Bible, “the pillar and ground” of truth. Therefore, "It is finished" (John 19:30) can't refer to the table which is continually repeated until Jesus returns (1 Cor 11:26). This helps us have more clarity over my writings above. What follows are Dr. Hahn's main proof texts. The writer is saying, that there is no remaining sacrifice required, because the sacrifice of Jesus lasts for eternity. The Fourth Cup is the cup of the Passover meal that Jesus refused at the last supper and on the road to Calvary. The Church age, is NOT the Fathers Kingdom. so Jesus would not have drunk the 1AC cup since he was never in that covenant although he was the validation sacrifice for the 1AC. We do know that by the time Jesus observed the Passover, drinking a cup during the meal was an official part of the observance. “And I will betroth you to me forever. An important note now, re my writings March 2020 above, for you to read first. He is the one serving the disciples. Of course, it only mentions two cups. However, I have not yet looked at, and changed the below. “we cannot leave, You have the words of eternal life”. So it is that Jesus drinks the Fourth Cup as he finishes his life's purpose on the Cross: he 'comes into his Kingdom'. First of all, none of the four gospels, mention Jesus drinking wine at the Last Supper. We’re drinking the cup of the Messiah, the cup of kingdom consummation. We know from Scripture that John the Baptist didn’t drink wine, but it is implied that Jesus did drink wine. I recommend it to you. The Greeks too drank many cups of wine at the symposium. It was not uncommon, for the father of the groom, to select his son’s bride. I have also fully saved pages 148 to 452 at the moment, with 1 to 147 to change soon before ready to read. The Lord's Supper (also referred to as the Meal, the Lord's Meal, the Eucharist, and Communion) involves the serving of bread and wine. Here are 2 examples (of many I could have chosen) that illustrate, that the sacrifice of Jesus did not need to be repeated. That’s what we deserve. So, let us consider the above question, by looking at what the Bible actually says on the subject. Jesus endured the wrath of God (drank the cup of God’s wrath) so that our sins could be forgiven and so that we may drink of the cup of salvation -- symbolized when we take the cup at communion). In Mark 14:39 and also John 18:10 drinking the cup is still viewed as future, and yet Jesus says this after Gethsemane. So the sorrow was already over at that point. (2) Jesus was offered wine twice upon the Cross: (a) wine + gall (myrrh) to ease his suffering, which he refused (Mark 15:23; cf. The Matan or bridal gift, would follow this public ceremony. "It is finished" (John 19:30). He will always restore them, as there will be a FINAL restoration. Therefore, we observe a different delivery method for the different wines. Instead, only the disciples drank the third cup because Jesus' blood was spilled to redeem them (and us). The majority of the disciples were hiding and Peter wasn't even restored until after Jesus' resurrection in John 21:15-25. However, in Luke 23:36, it is clear that a Roman soldier was serving the sour wine (oxos). Answer: There is only one group of people who are explicitly told in the Bible to never drink wine/alcohol, and that is the Nazirites (Numbers 6:1–4). But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom” … Matt 27:34 (esmyrnismenon oinon) and (b) sour wine (oxos) which was to prolong suffering, which Jesus partook (Matt 27:48; Mark 15:36; Luke 23:36; John 19:30). Isa 53:5; Rom 5:9; 2 Cor 5:21; Eph 1:7; 1 Pet 2:24; 1 John 1:7). What do they do at the 4th cup. 115-118). Jesus guarded the cup, not allowing Judas to drink the fourth cup, and Judas left during the meal before the Cup's introduction (John 13:18-30; cf. We cannot break it and He promises He will not break it. Attach a tilde (~) to the front of a word to omit results containing that word. The third cup of wine is the cup of redemption. Because it wasn’t completed until the death of the lamb (Jesus). I feel confident that Dr. Hahn knows better than this, but it is the logical consequence of his typology argument. Jesus had said that He would drink wine in the kingdom of God, but as demonstrated above, you do not read of Him drinking wine before His ascension. While John the Baptist did not drink wine, it is implied that Jesus did drink wine, for the religious leaders of the day accused Him of being a drunkard. order): (1) The First Cup (the kiddish cup): This is the introductory or sanctification cup. This period would then last for one year. Roman Catholicism still has Jesus on the cross – their likeness of Him hangs on their crucifixes in perpetual sacrifice just as their transubstantiation mass depicts. He is the perfect High Priest who satisfied the wrath of God once for all for his people (Heb 9:12-14). If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? The final and SEVENTH step in the betrothal is Nissuin and literally means: During betrothal, there was great anticipation. It was a reminder that he was thinking of her and would return to make her his wife. Change ). I will take you as my own people, and I will be your God. Jesus is going to begin this Passover meal like the Jewish people did for the preceding 1300 years. I will change the below, as I have time. According to Dr. Scott Hahn, Jesus did not drink this Fourth Passover Cup with the disciples (Matt 26:26-29). (4) The Fourth Cup (the hallel cup): This cup includes the recital - singing - of the Hallel Psalms (Psa. Indeed the RC often use traditions, inspired writings of the Fathers etc  to interpret the Bible. is the Theological Editor at Third Millennium Ministries (Thirdmill). Jesus fulfilled the first 3 cups, up to redemption, but the 3rd cup is still not fully fulfilled. Anonymous obviously does not understand the true Gospel, but instead believes the false gospel of works. When Did Jesus Drink The Fourth and Final Cup, of The Passover? Who is the One True Church? He may hold the cup metaphorically, because He is about to suffer something terrible. ISBN 978-1524758790 (Polish edition: Czwarty kielich. With the 4th chalice, Jesus said "Take and divide among you for I will not drink of the fruit of the vine til the kingdom of God come" He then went on to drink of the fourth chalice, but He did not contradict Himself, for it was not wine but His consecrated Blood. Following the third cup, Jesus stated He will not drink wine again until He reaches the Kingdom. The Present tense means something that continues on into the future and has ongoing results. Hmmm…this has a familiar ring for the born again believer. If Jesus had drunk the fourth (or final) cup, why does He break bread, but not distribute wine? It was symbolic of spiritual cleansing. What is the Immaculate Conception? “So that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.”, “are your garments spotless? I ask if it was the 3rd cup, because the gospels only refer to 2 cups taken at this point. I have now changed the writing/detail of all the above now. So we need to feast upon Jesus, through his Words, and we drink His blood – by being willing to suffer and die for Him. Dr. Scott Hahn is incorrect. This is a question which the Roman Catholic Church think they have now answered.....Have they? The Mystery Truth Revealed. Scott Hahn, a former Presbyterian turned Catholic, states that the fourth cup of Matthew 26:28 was finished upon Calvary (John 19:30; Matt 27:48; Mark 15:36; Luke 23:36). “In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.”. Therefore when Jesus said, "It is finished" (John 19:30) he was referring to Passover and not the atonement. Such a view of Matt 26.29, 39 seems best able to explain what would otherwise be very difficult to explain—viz., that Jesus declared in v 29 that he would not drink wine again until the kingdom age. “God’s Word is living and active, sharper than any two edged sword”. In fact, Catholics have to trust in these things, because they are instructed to NEVER interpret the scriptures privately, Because of one isolated verse, written by Peter, which says. They would usually exchange items of value and share a cup of wine, to seal the vows. It was customary for one of the groom’s party, to shout: This would be followed by the sounding of the shofar. Arnold is an experienced Jewish Bible teacher. Was Peter the First Pope? The Catholic Bible? It was a meal taken after the preparations have been made ready for the actual Passover Feast to be eaten. These places belong to those for whom they have been prepared.”. The main theme of the book of Hebrews is that the redemption of God's elect has been accomplished. showing that it is not referring to the church leaders. I especially want you to know the truth of His free eternal salvation. This is a clear indication of a future restoration. Jesus fulfilled the will of his Father (John 4:34; 6:37-40; 17:4, et. The Hebrew word translated "atonement" (kaphar) means "to cover over, pacify, or propitiate." Being the Word of God, the Bible is not merely “the pillar and ground,” but the “truth” itself. That tradition remains to this day.Each time the cup is filled, it has a different name. We’re going to drink a different fourth cup tonight. So, there was (1) an unregenerate head of the table, (2) three different types of wines (fruit of the vine, wine + gall, and sour wine), (3) different delivery systems (a cup, a sponge on a reed [a stock of hyssop]), (4) no disciples drinking "the fruit of the vine" at the cross, (5) one unrepentant thief partook of the sour wine, and (6) the Greek language speaks against an ongoing need of the Lord's Table for salvation. Jesus had already suffered for 3 hours, in spiritual and physical agony, because of taking the guilt of our sins – upon Himself. Opinions vary as to what certain cups actually symbolize. He was actually referring, to the punishment of our sins being finished. Let’s get it into Bible context, and not be influenced too much by extra biblical material, which can confuse matters. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.”. Jesus says, "I thirst." Are we supposed to overlook all these theological inconsistencies of Dr. Hahn and just take him at his word? The next step was ritual immersion, done separately by the bride and groom. However one should not drink a covenant which one is not a party to. But at the consecration of the Last Supper, Jesus said: “And I say to you, I will not drink again from this fruit of the vine, until that day when I shall drink it with you new in the kingdom of my Father.” (Matthew 26:29) Jesus drank the fourth cup on the cross when the wine was lifted up to him on the cross on the hyssop branch, as described in Gospel of John. This should never happen, because a once and for all time acceptance of Jesus, as the Saviour, is sufficient to save us, from our sins – by what HE has done. As we have seen, he refused some on one occasion, right before being nailed to the cross (Mark 15:23). 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The four cups represent the four expressions of deliverance promised by God (Exod 6:6-7): (1) "I will bring out;" (2) "I will deliver;" (3) "I will redeem;" and (4) "I will take." “man shall not live by bread alone (our physical needs) but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God (our spiritual needs)”. They were expected to drink the four cups of wine, and eat the symbolic foods, and they would all participate by Jewish law in this Passover meal. He said to them, “This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.”. What does the "four cups" refer too? The purpose of this site, is to inform everyone about the Bible, God and updating everyone on Christian events, now going on. Jesus could not have been referring to the Passover being finished, because He was still alive. I now write messages that I want you to read. This illustrates that the final cup, will be drunk by Jesus, in Heaven. What does atonement mean? Scott Hahn, The Fourth Cup. Pp. This means that Jesus DIED at 3pm at the exact time that the passover lamb was being consumed throughout Israel. Then one day, the groom’s father would say: The bridal party would set off down the street, to the bride’s house. This makes it clear, that God’s relationship with Israel, and His love for them – will continue on throughout eternity. (1 Cor 11:28). God has now enabled me again to be able to write very strong messages. The 4th cup is surely a cup of completion. Transubstantiation vs. Consubstantiation vs. Memorialism vs Reformed? Therefore, if Hahn is to be believed, at the Cross, an unrepentant Roman soldier, whom God held morally responsible for the murder of his very Son (Acts 2:22-23; 4:27-28), was the Head of the Table? Pre-Apostolic Succession ??? Matt 26:20-27; Mark 14:18-23). Jesus certainly partook of the Passover cup. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.”. ( Log Out /  In other words, when Jesus spoke those words he was speaking of both an "accomplished fact" and an "ongoing fact"; it is finished and it will go on being finished. Where does it say (in the Bible), that a cry is made at the end of the Passover, anyway? You may be surprised to know, that there is NO MYSTERY regarding the final cup, if we look only to the Bible for the answers. These should open our eyes to what God wants us all to learn in these days. “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. This has been most interesting to read through; and I have no ‘but’s’ , just a very important point to consider imo; that all of this dialogue has been based upon an assumption, made by Michael, that the ‘Last Supper’ was the ‘Passover Feast’. Matt 26:20-27; Mark 14:18-23). If some religious sects, want to use Jewish tradition to explain the cups drunk by Jesus, then (to be consistent) why not also use the Jewish wedding tradition. The use of wine and chalice in the Eucharist in Christian churches is based on the Last Supper story. This is a question which the Roman Catholic Church think they have now answered…….. Sing the great hallel. This is where Jesus announced the New Covenant for the forgiveness of sins [Luke 22:20, Matthew 26:27-28]. Why did Jesus NOT drink the 4th cup of wine during the sacred passover meal and instead walk out before its completion? “He would not drink of the vine, until the Kingdom had been established”, “I will take you as my own people, and I will be your God”, This has still not yet fully happened for Israel, as of 2020, and. Later, when Jesus is carrying his cross, Mark 15:23 tells us that Jesus was offered wine, but did not take it. Every gospel account, only states that He distributed the wine, to the apostles only. So it is meaningless, to say that the pass-over was finished! 191. They were considered married, but did not have sexual relations. Thanks Anonymous for visiting and contributing. By the fourth cup, it is not meant the cup of Elijah, which was added to Passover at a later time. Passover was not complete, until Jesus was resurrected and ascended. That is never true and is a real false teaching, as I will now demonstrate. “knowing that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your forefathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.”. and they would finalise the promises and vows. 39–40). This is illustrated in: Jesus Christ does this through the New Covenant. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God, who brought you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians.”, I will bring you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians, I will free you from being slaves to them, I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with mighty acts of judgement. 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